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Myocardial infarction is the self-inflicted ,  modern-day death sentence  especially  among the  young generation who are   addicted to the affluent life style .

We know the  cardio vascular events  are  precipitated  due to a  sudden trigger in those  people  who have a base line risk profile. The major  risk factors are ,

  • Diabetes
  • Smoking
  • Hyperlipidemia
  • Hyper tension
  • Obesity

When one or more of the above factors   progress unabated he or she is at high risk for acute coronary event .

Is that a fatal stock market rhythm !

A loaded gun  needs a trigger to fire  , similarly  in a vulnerable patient (Plaque )  any of the following can act as a  trigger to precipitate an MI.

  • Hemodynamic stress (Fall or raise of BP )
  • Any  systemic illness( fever etc)
  • Physical stress
  • Mental stress , any strong surge of  emotion (Negative or positive)*
  • Non cardiac surgery

*Anger, fear , euphoria , guilt , bereavement ,

Now there is evidence pouring in  ,   natural calamities (  perceived fear of death) can  act as trigger  for MI.

We have reports  of  excess cardiac events   following  . . .

  • Earth quakes
  • Terrorist attacks
  • Flight scares

Any events which can release  sudden pulse of adrenaline into the plaques can trigger an acute coronary event.

Now,  this study from Shangai ,  documents how the coronary events dance to the tunes of stock market movements in the financial capital of  China .

http://eurheartj.oxfordjournals.org/content/32/8/1006.abstract

Final message

Chaos theory states no two events are isolated in this world  !   When stock market swings it can  pull down your heart too .

be cautious !

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  1. Left to right
  2. Right to left
  3. Can be in both directions
  4. No significant flow at all !

Answer :   Every response can be correct

The patent foramen ovale is a physiological orifice , which  becomes  pathological if persist into  adult hood .The incidence is estimated to be about 20 %  of the population (Amounts to 100 crore PFOs roaming  in our planet!). It makes  no sense  to  believe  just spotting  a  PFO  in routine echocardiography be termed  as pathological . But recently  (Adding much to  interventionist’s  delight ! ) the presence of which is being linked with migraine and stroke in young.

The size of the orifice can be from a single millimeter to one centimeter* . The direction of blood flow in PFO   is determined by the mean gradient across the orifice. It has to be  left to right  as the LA pressure is  generally   higher by few mm mercury  ,hence there is a small  tide of flow entering into RA with each left atrial filling or contractile wave .(v and a ). This  quantum is miniscule and has no hemodynamic significance in most life situations.

* Some call( Wrongly ) 1cm PFO  as small ASD.

When can Right to left to flow occur ?

When the right atrial pressure increase more than LA pressure it is obvious  blood can enter LA . It is well-known this occurs  in any pathological situations like RVOT obstruction severe PHT , tricuspid valve obstructions etc.

Physiological  Right to Left flow :

Forced expiration (Valsalva) can cause transient  right to left flow. This  may happen in many real life situations like straining, heavy isometric exercise, blowers, muscians  etc.

Which is clinically  significant ?

Left to right or right to left  ?

Left to right shunting is rarely an issue as there is no systemic  desaturation.

Right to left  shunting  can be  important for two reasons

  1. Arterial desaturation( transient )
  2. Shifting of venous debris into arterial side  can result  in potential paradoxical embolism .(This can be air, clot fat , amniotic fluid etc)  This is the reason stroke in young is closely linked to presence of PFO.

PFOs during positive pressure ventilation

PEEP is a classical example where a right atrial positive pressure ,  shunts the blood in pulsatile manner into left atrium .

Platyponea  hypoxia  syndrome .

This is  postural right to left shunting  across PFO .It  is a less recognised (but a common entity) where -in ,  when the patient  lies down there is a  right to left PFO shunt and transient hypoxia .This is often corrected as the patient sits up. The reason being  the valve of PFO , the   door like flap  which guards  the orifice  ,  is aligned   in such a fashion , it  opens up in a  lying posture(Aided by gravity ?)  , shuts down in  sitting posture .It should be noted  The PFO valve is not a constant feature  . The size  of this valve , the stiffness , the hinge points , ability to  float  are highly variable .Hence the clinical variation in PFO syndrome.

The IAS septal aneurysm is an  important variation where the valve of PFO balloons out into left atrium  may become a nidus for thrombus or a focus for atrial arrhythmias .

Stroke in young  and PFO  :This  topic  deserves a separate article

Reference

Anatomy

Excellent PFO images from Yale university library  ( http://www.yale.edu/imaging/chd/e_pfo/index.html)

 

http://chestjournal.chestpubs.org/content/100/4/1157.full.pdf+html

http://chestjournal.chestpubs.org/content/118/3/871.long

http://www.anesthesia-analgesia.org/content/93/5/1137.full.pdf

Excellent PFO images from Yale university library

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A 50-year-old man was referred to us with suspected  angina. Here is his ECG.

Epicardial fat : One more cause for Low voltage QRS

He was an obese man weighing 105 Kgs. He was put on a tread mill  .It  was convincingly  negative .
The echo cardiogram revealed a prominent epicardial pad of  fat measuring 6mm throughout the anterior surface.He had  normal valves and normal myocardial function.It was concluded the low voltage and poor R waves , and T wave inversion was due to the thick epicardial fat.

ECG -Fat correlation

The lack of R wave progression  is attributable  to the insulation effect of fat .Chest wall fat rarely dampen the electricity .Epicardial fat does it more.T wave inversion may not be  due to dampening effect of fat  .We think epicardial fat when adherent to true pericardial surface of the heart it alters  the epicardial  action potential  .It is possible  electrical  neutralisation by the fatty infiltration of epicardium  reverses the direction  of repolarisation  towards the epicardium .

Other ECG manifestation of thick  epicardial  fat

  • Poor R wave progression
  • Anterior Q waves
  • T wave inversion in ;leads v1 to v4 or V5

Final message
Epicardial fat deposits can have clinically  important influence on the surface ECG recording .
Simple chest wall obesity causes only diminutive  R wave . If fat encircles epicardium it has high chances of  producing repolarisation   abnormalities  in the form of T wave inversion or flattish   ST segment.

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It is  a well proven concept   beta adrenergic blockers have a useful role in controlling   the  frequency, and intensity  of  vaso- vagal syncope .

One may wonder how an anti adrenergic drug help to counter hyper vagotonia syndrome !

This is because  during  vaso -vagal  syncope ,  the  inital trigger is  sympathetic . A   sudden hyper adrenergic  surge occurs   that stimulate the vagus, ( Which  overshoots the   initial  quantum of adrenergic signal)   and  cause a systemic vasodilatation ,  hypotension and bradycardia.

How does adrenergic surge stimulate the  vagus?

By two ways

  • Brain stem spill over effect in medulla (Vasomotor to tractus solitarius)
  • Cardiac  stretch caused  by hyperadrenergic activity . This stretch initiates a  vagal reflex  especially from  the base of the heart (Similar to Bazold Zarish reflex ). This  mechanism is  thought to be more important than brain stem spill over  , that’s why  it is referred to as  neuro-cardiogenic syncope .

How does beta blocker help?

  1.  It   sedates  the  adrenergic centre which  modulates the trigger  .It  also blocks the  sympathetic  afferent limb of the syncope circuit.
  2.  Anxiety  and panic reactions are close associate’s of vaso- vagal syncope. They are  not only  considered as  prodrome for syncope  but also act as  important triggers.This is effectively tackled by beta blockers .
  3. Finally , beta blockers  soothes the mycardial  stretch  receptors by reducing the  ventricular shear stress (Reduced contractility and wall stress )  hence neuro-cardiogenic  axis is  pacified.

It is important to remember beta blcokers can only  prevent/  reduce  episodes  of  vaso vagal syncope. It  may aggravate  the situation   if administered  shortly  after the event , as bradycardia and hypotension  is dominant  in the recovery phases.

*During an episode of vaso vagal syncope atropine group  of drugs is most useful .

Which beta blocker ?

Propronolol is the prototype  as it has non selectivity and good penetrance  of  blood brain  barrier ,  which is  the most appropriate site for suppressing hyper adrenergic drive.

Cardio selective beta blockers  do have a role as cardiac stretch  receptors is  one of the two target sites .

Final message

Ironically ,   in the long term management of  vaso-vagal syncope , anti adrenergic drugs  have a major role  rather than atropine like drugs .

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Coronary  atherosclerosis is the number one killer of mankind. Many would consider it as an  essential  process of aging .Modern  life styles and habits make this appear  very early in life . There is currently an endemic (or even  a pandemic ) of   CAD due to premature  atherosclerosis. We need to recognise CAD is not a  primary heart disease  .It is an irony, heart is an  innocent bystander  to the  biological derangement  of coronary  vascular system  when  it is infested with atherosclerotic plaques .

So , when we  are confronted  with  serious atherosclerotic lesions in a coronary artery   what shall we do ?

We have three options

  1. Take on the enemy in a direct confrontation (Like war on terror ) : This is  some times called as Interventional cardiology .Caution is required as the battle  is within the human coronary artery ,  cross fires and collateral  damage  are unavoidable.

2 .Next  method  is to  find the basic cause  of  terrorism , identify  the perpetuates, facilitators    and try to correct the   root cause of it (CAD ) .This approach  also refered to as medical management  in cardiology community*  . It  aims  at regression of plaque  by statins, and life style modification and preventive cardiology. This modality is most ridiculed and  insulted by the main stream cardiologists.

*Comparable to  bilateral peace talks for a political solution to terror

3. And third option is a  real  surprise !   This  neither  confronts   the lesion   nor does it  address the initiating factors . It   just ignores  the lesion and by pass it with a LIMA /SVG  fly over ,  as if  nothing has happened in this vital high way leaving the culprit scot-free  .This option is  executed by surgeons as  CABG surgery . . . and  for mysterious reasons  this is a  well accepted one .

CABG :Here the atherosclerotic  burden is untouched by surgery . The graft can get diseased  sooner or later , native vessel disease  shall  progress some times encroaching  the ostia of distal graft site . Incidence of acute coronary syndrome following CABG is not greatly reduced for the simple reason we are not doing anything primarily to the inflamed plaques .These issues  are left ,  to be  taken care by the  medical  management .

* This article  does not want to defame these great development in cardiology(PCI/CABG) . They have a  specific role to play. CABG AND PCI remain the only option for critical  lesions with limiting angina .But please remember without  proper  medical management  ( ie Targeting  the perpetuates of  crime )  both  PCI and CABG will be a big sham !

Final  message

Avoiding   the  lesion  or  attacking the lesion  is a  primitive  method to tackle CAD  . Passifying   the lesions  in a slow and gentle manner,   preventing  further progression  or regression  of lesions is the only  “sane” method for combating CAD   . PCI and by pass surgeries  can be termed  as  21st century’s   medical  adventure sports  which  has  limited role ,  in the overall control  of CAD  for the human kind .

And  now  answer this question . . .

Cardiologists attack the lesion and  surgeon avoids the lesion ?  Who is the winner in our fight against CAD  ?

Both of them are  clear losers .The winners are  all those  humble physicians and parmedical workers (or even the responsible lay public ) who  help recognise  the early forms  of  CAD  and  counsel properly to prevent it .

This is  what  Dean Ornish   in 1991  documented in  Lancet  which was never considered scientific   for the simple reason it has no commercial value !

Reference:

http://www.thelancet.it/journals/lancet/article/PII0140-6736(90)92230-F/fulltext

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dean_Ornish

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Is hypertension really a major risk factor for CAD ?

    1. Yes it is !
    2. No . . . it is not !
    3. May be !
    4. I don’t think so !

Ans : Any of the above can be a  right response , depending upon our basal and perceived  level of knowledge .

Answer analysis

  1. SHT  is  one of the risk factor for CAD  agreed ,  but definitely not a major one , as SHT per-se rarely precipitate a STEMI
  2. Unless SHT occurs with dyslipidemia, smoking or diabetes it is  rare to cause ACS.
  3. The only  adverse effect of SHT  is  , it has a potential  to aggravate atherosclerosis  by promoting epithelial injury and dysfunction.
  4. Hypertension is a well known  major risk factor for cerebro vascular disease while it is minor risk factor for CAD !
  5. We do not know yet why cerebral vessels are intolerant to high blood pressure while coronaries are pretty happy  with it !

Final comment

SHT is not a major risk factor  for CAD ! At worst , it can propagate chronic CAD. This sort of reasoning  may be considered a huge controversy  . . .but it is really not !

  • One evidence for the above observation is  , we  have  been struggling hard  for over a half a century  to prove a elusive  point that controlling blood pressure  to optimal levels  would  dramatically reduce  cardiac   events !
  • Further,HT’s  relationship with acute coronary syndrome especially STEMI  is vague , it is very rare for patients with accelerated hypertension or malignant hypertension to  present with STEMI *

* Caution :Young doctors should not get confused with this seemingly  controversial observation .This write-up , tries  to convey  a point  , SHT may not be that bad for coronary arteries when compared to cerebral arteries . However BP control remains  vital in  all patients who have  developed a cardiac  event or in patients with multiple risk factors .

Please note ** SHT is still  a powerful risk factor for cardiac failure.(Acute LVF to be precise ) ***SHT can aggravate unstable angina , but very  rare to precipitate unstable angina.**** SHT ./High intra-coronary  pressure can theoretically  dissect or fissure a plaque . (The fact that , HT is so prevalent in a community  but spontaneous  coronary  dissections are not !  should make us think further !)

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What  is the   “secret of success”   among current generation  cardiologists ?

A . Strong foundations in cardiology with excellent clinical skills and a rational approach to the given problem.

B.  The  secret lies in the  nimble  fingers  which  acts  almost , like an extension of catheters  in cath lab !

C.  The speed with which he can mobilise a cath lab team in an ” off – office hour”  primary  PCI !

D. It is the the cunning art of  converting coronary  angiograms into angioplasties , by lucid  discussions  with patients and their   relatives  in the the silent cath lab corridors  !

Answer:

When this question was posed to a group of cardiologists ,  D  was considered  most important B,and C came close behind   and   A  was  probably least important  and few thought  “A” character  is rather an  impediment to  become a successful cardiologist !

*Unfortunately a successful cardiologist is defined in India by number of angioplasties he does per month, What  a disgrace to a great medical specialty called cardiology !

What is normal CAG to angioplasty conversion ratio ?

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We presume  ECG  fails miserably against echocardiography for assessing hemodynamics , while  echocardiogram  has  little value  when it comes to studying   electrophysiology .  Ironically ,  we often  ignore  the fact  ,   ECG can  provide  important long-term   hemodynamic  data . The pattern of  chamber enlargement  give us  vital clues to the prevailing hemodynamic  stress and loading conditions. While echo  can be termed as an  anatomical and  physiologic   modality  , ECG  apart from  its unique capacity to record cardiac  electrical finger prints ,  it  provides  useful ,  anatomical ,  hemodynamic information too !

While Doppler is a  fascinating modality to measure hemodynamic data in a moment to moment fashion it can never ever tell us  , what has been going around in the preceding months or years. This  is were chamber size helps which  give us chronic physiological information (Chronic  Doppler ?)

A simple E:A reversal  in  mitral inflow doppler can be a  innocuous  finding in isolation  . If it is associated with even   minimal grades of  LAE  it gains huge importance. That is why left atrial size is  funnily referred to as HB A1C of diastolic dysfunction ( A marker of chronicity  of  diastolic dysfunction)

If LAE is so important to diagnose diastolic dysfunction , why  we are so  obsessed  with doppler filling profiles  of mitral valve ,pulmonary veins, mitral annular tissue Doppler and what not ! .Many of these sophisticated doppler methods are extremely operator dependent  and are  subjected  to technical and mathematical errors. Especially , with  tissue doppler where we  magnify the errors as we  filter  extremely  slow tissue motion .

For  many  decades  we  have failed  to impress ourselves  , about the importance of subtle P wave abnormalities in the  ECGs   of  hypertensive patients.

In fact those  innocuous looking  slurs and notches   in P waves ,  suggest the left atrial  stress and a definite marker of underlying LV diastolic dysfunction .

P wave is the only electrical wave that occur in diastole .Hence there is no surprise  ,i  gives us enormous information about this phase of cardiac cycle .

If only we look  at them carefully, zoom it (Now it is made easy with so many softwares)  analyse critically we can find a wealth of information about the atrial behavior in hypertension.

Experience from our hypertension clinic  with periodic echocardiograms suggest ,  the following  ECG  findings   can be   good markers  of significant  diastolic dysfunction .

  1. Notched P wave
  2. Wide  P waves
  3. Slurred  P wave
  4. Bi-phasic P waves

* Surprisingly  , these abnormalities correlated with at least grade 1 diastolic dysfunction even in the absence of  for LAE or LVH by echocardiogram.

** In an  occasional patient  P waves  can widen due to inter atrial block or conduction delay. This a rare exception for wide P waves without LAE.

Final message

A well recorded and   analysed   ECG can  predict diastolic dysfunction  with fair  degree of accuracy .This fact need to be emphasized  by every one  .  Next to ECG ,  LA size and volume  by 2d echo are excellent parameters  to assess diastolic function in a long term fashion. Sophisticated  but  error prone ,  momentary doppler parameters are getting too much attention  at the cost of simple ,  shrewd ECG and 2D echo  !

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LVH can be diagnosed with fair degree of  accuracy  by surface ECG . We have a set criteria .The Estes  scoring is  the most popular. Very rarely we have all  the classical features of LVH in a given ECG .

With the advent of echocardiography ECG diagnosis of LVH has become redundant . Still , it is essential to  build the  foundations  in cardiology  for the current generation cardiologists.

The following are the  magnified views from the above   ECG

High Voltage

High voltage QRS is a hall mark of LVH .It increases in both chest  and  limb leads .In chest leads , both R and S wave gets amplified , while in limb leads only the R wave  is taller . We have to sum up R  from lead  V 5 and S from V2  (Practically any deep S and tall R can be added . LVH is diagnosed  if  sum qrs voltage  is  >35 mm . Voltage criterias in limb leads do not require these  addition business . An  R wave amplitude > 11mm  in limb leads by itself  would indicate an LVH (In the absence of bundle blocks )

Pit falls in voltage  criteria

It is our belief    qRS voltage  would faithfully   reflect the   quantum of cardiac muscle mass ,  but in general  to equate qRS voltage  to myocardial  mass  is   a  huge error we make ! (Of course  It  may be true in  some cases  following MI )  .

The qRS  voltage is determined by   numerous  factors (Important ones are :  chest wall thickness , age , LV cavity size ,  amount of blood inside LV cavity,  heart rate , conduction delays  etc ) This is the reason a 10-year-old boy’s   ECG will  satisfy the criteria of LVH  by 100 % .Do not ever report a ECG without knowing the age of the patient .

At high heart rates R wave amplitude increases(Broddy effect) due to high conductance of blood

Chest lead always balances RV and LV forces .One can mask the other .So be ready for surprises when you find a perfectly normal ECH in bi-ventricular  hypertrophies ) A balancing act !

Mini summary : Never diagnose LVH with high voltage alone

Left axis deviation

The axis deviation is again non specific  . The LV mass shifts the mean axis to left (Beyond -15 degrees) .The axis shift would also be contributed by mild forms of LAFB . This  fascicle  which criss crosses the LVOT  easily gets injured to hemodynamic stress ( or rather insulted ) and  lose its function . So its job is  transferred to  the posterior fascicle  which  shoots  towards  anterior and superior and left , hence the  left axis deviation) .The LAFB is generally a benign defect unless it occurs in an acute fashion as a response to ischemia.

Mini summary : Never diagnose LVH on the basis of left axis alone

Left Atrial  abnormality

This need not be present in every one with LVH . It happens only  if  LVH  is associated with relaxation defect , when   it calls for  LA’s  assistance .(In other words , presence  of LAE in hypertensive  patients is  a  sure and simple way to confirm diastolic dysfunction ) . Similarly absence of  LAE (  with a   significant LVH )  is a good sign as the LV is able to tackle the hypertensive stress in solo fashion in all likely hood free from significant diastolic dysfunction.

Apart from LAE , note also the p wave encroaches good part of PR interval .

Mini summary : LAE can be very useful parameter to diagnose LVH . (Is it not ironical  to note   LAE is more reliable to diagnose LVH ! . This is because qrs morphology is unreliable as it influenced by many factors  while p wave  changes are  not subjected to such influence )

Secondary repolarization changes

We know ventricular depolarization and repolarization are interlinked phenomenon .Both  occur in  opposite directions still  , able to  record   ECG deflection  in same direction  (positive QRS/positive T)  . This is due to the fact  the epicardium and endocardium has  action potential with different velocities . At times of   LVH this epicardial  , endocardial heterogeneity in repolarization becomes void. (Note : This is a simplified statement of a complex repolarization process)

Because of this the repolarization is recorded opposite to that of depolarization .Hence we get all sorts of secondary ST /T changes. (The  term secondary is used to denote secondary to alteration  in depolarisation ).

Many times  all of the following  could   mean the same  in the bed side clinical parlance !

  • Secondary ST/T changes
  • Non specific ST/T ,
  • LV strain
  • LV systolic over load etc .

Note : Primary ST depression occurs in true ischemia without any alteration in LV Mass or conduction defect.

*** For advanced readers  only : Some of the ST depression that occur in ischemia could again be secondary changes. This  needs further reading.

Definitions

Echo is the gold standard for diagnosing LVH .There are two definitions .

  1. Based on septal thickness
  2. Based on LV mass*

LV mass > 200mg in men and 175mg in women is considered LVH . LVH based on LV mass is  ideal . But can be misleading in a dilated heart where the mass may be increased with a  relatively   thinned  out IVS .

Final message

There are numerous  ways to miss    LVH in ECG,  But the definite way  for not missing  is by echocardiogram !


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Mechanical complications are not rare  following acute MI .In fact , it closely competes with electrical deaths . Many times it is not recognised  and get wrongly labeled as  simple pump  failure .

Echocardiography has revolutionised the way , we approach these deadly complication.(Of course , many  deaths  could  not be prevented still !)

The early days of STEMI is critical . This is the time the infarcted muscle softens and invaded by blood components like  neutrophils etc. The biochemical events  in the infarct zone is a least studied aspect by  current generation  cardiologists. Some ,  especially women tend to lyse their interstitial collagen faster. This minute break ups  coalesce to form a tear , When this tear is subjected to hemodynamic stress and mechanical stretch a rupture is  all too likely.

The rupture site is predetermined by the patients fate !. If the tear occur in free wall of LV  , in all likely-hood ,we are going to lose the patient. If he is blessed  , the rupture take place in the interventricular  septum .Here , the issue is less disastrous as the  blood is  simply shunted to a different chamber .In fact , some consider VSR puts an ailing ventricle at  a slight hemodynamic advantage which is referred to as decompression .   The LVEDP has  a biphasic response to VSR  .An  initial raise bfollowed by a flat response.This has a clinical correlation too  with a temporary deterioration and subsequent stabilisation.

The issue of thrombolysis and ventricular rupture  was controversial for decades  .It never got a correct answer and finally we have our own conclusions  .

Thrombolysis as such reduces  the net incidence of ventricular rupture even though  late thrombolysis do  increase the risk of rupture. What does the above statement mean to you ?  confusing is isn’t ?

For population based approach  thrombolysis  has a  no negative impact ,  but in a given individual  one has to weigh  the risk vs benefit .

An irregular tear in the mid ventricular septum

This patient did well with initial medical support and referred for surgery electively

How to manage ?

Unstable patients (Real shock or impending shock  . . .please note every one with  90mmhg  pressure   is not  unstable !)

  • Emergency coronary angiogram  , VSR closure , CABG
  • VSR closure only , without  angio /CABG  (An useful option if your surgeon )

Stable patients

Four approaches available

  • Treat as emergency as above
  • Wait still instability  begins (Yeh . . .I really mean it !)
  • Sort out a  elective  plan.
  • Send the patient home with VSR * ( we have two patients attending our OPDs for >5 years )

* Exceptional case not to be taken as a model for management.

There is rarely an  agreement between surgeon and cardiologist in timing intervention in VSR  patients. Treatment protocols vastly differ in various institutions with the common theme being early  surgery .

Cath based therapy for VSR closure is still  considered a cardiology  adventure sport .

Some  observations about VSR

  • The doppler  VSR jet if  reaches 4-5 m/sec (65-100 mmhg) the prognosis is often good , as it indirectly  reflects the native LV function .A ventricle which could generate 100mmhg pressure head,  even after a supposedly large MI  is great by any standards.These are the ventricles  that fight till the end and patients do well in the  adverse circumstances.
  • In the  other end of the spectrum we have a VSR with a faint murmur and 3m/sec jet .They will be  hypotensive and end up in shock soon.
  • Infero posterior VSRs  do badly due the complexities of tears.
  • Medical management do have an important role in stabilising  these  patients.
  • LVH if present is again a favorable sign
  • Tissue friability could be an important issue why many surgeons fear early surgery.(Some deny this and some say it is never an issue .I am yet to get clarity on this aspect .I expect an answer from cardio thoracic surgeons .)

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