Feeds:
Posts
Comments

One of the greatest medical sermon of our times  is   “Doctors must   constantly update their knowledge , Continuing medical  education is as sacred as their profession  !  If you are not updating your knowledge you cease to a doctor “

It is fashionable , but true  to state  modern medicine lacks humane  care . Modern medicine  is  challenged by a huge  technological ,  commercial  onslaught  where common sense takes  the back seat

Hence , doctors need to renew not only  their  academic competence   but also  their ethical  fitness  every  year !

Aggression  could be the other  name for  modern medical care . For every  new  invention , treatment   or guideline that  is  approved  an equal number  is shelved after few months or years  for safety reasons.

Bulk of  medical updates  for  current age physicians  is nothing , but asking   them to forget  all those wrong things that has been meticulously uploaded in their brains in the recent past  ( Recall the classical story of drug eluting stents )

If this is the  case . . . then  . . .  what for  we  are  updating ?   and  for what  we are  learning and forgetting  ?  and  . . . how frequent we need to forget ?  Of course  , there is a big chunk of   human tribe  who  can never master the art of forgetting ! Some mistakes are permanently etched in their terra byte hard disks .

Is there a place  for backdating and discontinuing  medical  education  ?

What  man- kind needs  at times of  medical  crisis  ,  is  not  the current  treatment  but the correct  treatment    .It is our duty  to  find  all those  trustworthy  drugs  & treatment modalities  that were  sent  to  the gallows by the modern medical forces   for various reasons !

If  some of  the gems in  medicine are  left behind in  past  “time domain”  ,  it is  mandatory  for us  to go  back in time and   catch it , adopt it and disseminate it !

Further ,  whenever  the  hyped   “medical updating sessions ”  turns out to be  synonymous with adding nonsense (It is  becoming all too common these days   !) we should resist   it by all means !

For many . . . Hippocrates and his medicine sounds dirty now !

If  only we back-date  our knowledge   .  .  .

Todays  youngsters  can learn a secret that liver enlargement can be diagnosed easily  with their  hands ,  without  waiting for a  CT scan report !

If only we back-date  our   knowledge  . . .

We can realise  Aminophylline can save so many  lives of cardiac  failure  , which  our newer inotropic agents are struggling to accomplish .

If only we  back- date  our knowledge  . . .

We can calmly manage  acute MI with lignocaine  even in a country side  .  Amiodarone unfairly replaced  this  efficient  anti  VT  molecule  for no academic reasons !

If only we back- dat our knowledge  . . .

We  can  advice simple non pharmacological intervention for  stage 1 HT   than prescribing the  glamorous  sartan molecules  form a  multinational  ARB shoppe.

If only we back- date our knowledge  . . .

We can  promptly recognise  cardiac failure  without  ordering  for the error prone   BNP . Back dating also  helps us to under stand  that post infarct angina is a  glaring sign  for presence of   viable myocardium  and prevent us from undertaking a  2000 $ PET  excursion !

If only we back- date our knowledge  . . .

We can  send  all our uncomplicated , asymptomatic   STEMI  patients ( in class 1 )  straight to  their  home rather than to cath lab  play grounds !

Thousands of  coronary angiograms are done every day. Cardiologist no longer get excited to see exotic coronary lesions .Still , some images can be striking and dramatic. Here is an angiogram from a middle aged man  with stable angina  , who was  one among the routine early morning diagnostic studies  in our cath lab.

Who chopped the neck of this LAD ?

How this man was able to fill up the distal LAD almost completely? (With a complete cut off  right in the neck of LAD )

Are you sure there is antegrade flow ?

Do you get any clue ?

  • Can a trickle of  ante grade flow  sustain  a  TIMI 3 FLOW  ?
  • Or is it a  very efficient  instant collaterals  from LCX ?

Yes . The first one is right . An almost invisible antegrade channel  doing a exemplary job !

How is it possible ?

Realize an important fact . The distal flow beyond an obstruction  is not primarily dependent on degree of obstruction but the status of the distal vascular  bed .  If it is normal  even a hair-line patency  can  profusely perfuse the distal myocardial segment. This is what is happening to this man with a stable angina and perfectly normal micro vascular bed.

Lessens  from this Image.

Do not get fooled by the lay man’s logic. Realise there is  no simple relation  between  the degree of obstruction and degree of  blood flow impediment.It can be linear , curvilinear , or even inverse depending upon   the evolution and timing of obstruction  ,  number of lesions , presence or absence of collateral support , finally and  most importantly  the integrity of microvascular bed .

The  distal vascular bed drops its resistance drastically  once it senses  the problem in  proximal segment . This is based on Bernoulli principle and  is akin to how a  garden hose pipe  can simply increase  the velocity  by tightening the nozzle.*


* The garden hose analogy is a gross simplification of   complex factors that determine coronary blood flow.But it effectively clarifies a point ie  coronary blood flow is least dependent on coronary  stenosis (until  very late stages)

**Note further : This  hemodynamic  principle may not apply in acute occlusion as in STEMI  , where   acute  obstruction  often has a linear relationship with the quantum of blood flow.

By the way what happened to the above patient ?

Since he had significant angina there were no debates regarding management.  He  is posted for elective PCI this week-end .(We  can’t  get a stent just like that unless it is a real emergency  .Ours is a  Govt hospital !)

What is your take . Is it a going to be tough cross ?

I feel so , but my colleague Dr Gnanavelu   strongly  differs !

Let me post  our experience during PCI shortly.

                                                     Every day thousands of  hearts  end their life   due to terminal heart failure . Much more  lives are  confined  to their bed rooms.In refractory cardiac failure and severe LV dysfunction the only  long-term option is cardiac transplantation.

Medical therapy has reached its saturation point.  Neuro- humoral modulation shows some promise. The other modalities like cardiac resynchronisation ,LV assist devices ,  ventricular  reduction surgeries ,  restriction devices , mitral valve splinting  are  still experimental .

Simply watch this Image : Your heart will get Energy

Modern day  cardiology is trying to add life to these dying  hearts  .

There are two aims

  • To prolong survival
  • Improve functional capacity (Make them at least take care of daily activities and live a fairly independent live)

This is the purpose of the  mushrooming heart failure clinics all over the  world . These clinics , though started with  good intention , ultimately   become  feeding  centres for so many experimental  bridge modalities  , sometimes  with an  infinite wait for  a potential donor  or at the mercy of their insurance companies  . (Many time it turns out to be a  bridge to heaven as the patient fails to cross it !) .

Even though there is strict criteria for terminal  heart failure ,  in practical terms it has many issues .Temporary functional deterioration is misinterpreted   often .

Premature  dependence on LV assist devices and  indulgence  in inappropriate  mitral valve reconstructive  procedures are the currently most important pseudo cardiac interventions .( Myosplint/AV groove tying etc)   Some where along   the  academic  corridors ,   we failed to realise many patients can bridge themselves  to a  transplant (or even   self de-list  from transplant programme  )  provided we are willing to wait and take few   risks  .

It is observed exercise training  programme is awfully inadequate in most centres  who deal with late stages of cardiac failure.

The hidden link  between skeletal muscle and  cardiac muscle

Skeletal muscle  function is impaired in cardiac failure . This impairment is attributable  to both  dis-use and low cardiac output.  Proper training of these muscles can not only improve the functional capacity  but also  sets in  a positive hemodynamic cycle  that   ultimately improves cardiac function as well.

In  our  country we have data  of  thousands of patients  with severe LV dysfunction living with the much ridiculed  digoxin   ,   diuretics ,  ACEI  and minimal exercise living a comfortable life for over 10 years .  It is often said in  cardiology class rooms ,  do not whip a tired horse  as the   failed heart needs rest  .This statement  has  truth  in it even in  this  space age cardiology !

Whipping  a failing heart with electrodes in the name of CRT   could be as  bad as  whipping with inotropic agents . This is not a  personal joke ! This fact has been repeatedly  proved by various inotropic  studies in terminal heart failure(Dobutamine to be specific ) Even CRT  is a suspect .These patients walk for 30 meters  further  with  no convincing survival  benefits .(Of course it requires a ICD -Combo to prevent sudden deaths ) Zero impact in non sudden deaths ?

Can  we propose a  new therapeutic  concept to our  patients   ?

Do you  want to   live with a  low functional capacity (Restricted  life   still  happy  )    for 5 years   or live  apparently unrestricted  life   and die prematurely ?

                         In simple terms,  for all those patients with severe  grades of  heart failure   the  best advice could be . . .to  avoid the levels  of exertion that cause dyspnea / Modern gadgets  may help relieve  exertion for a short  while  , but it  can cut short your longevity * (* This is not a threatening message. This applies to near terminal stages of cardiac failure .All other minor grades of CHF are encouraged to exert up to 70 % of their limits.)

Peripheral mechanism in cardiac failure.

We know cardiac  failure is not a simple  mechanical failure of heart , it activates a complex neuro endocrine system which makes it a systemic disorder .Many of the current research is aimed at favorably modify this. It is now certain Skeletal muscle function is a  major determinant of  cardiac failure outcome and hence a therapeutic target .

If you have good muscle mass ,  good diaphragm and intercostal muscles one can  compensate the compromise inflicted by the heart to a large extent.  We know,   the entire vascular tree has a mechanical function  to do . The stiffness and compliance of aorta , other  major vessels, the muscles  through which these vessels  traverse determine the  ultimate  efficiency  of  circulation.We know  the pulse wave , as it  travels to the periphery , gets amplified. This amplification is not without any significance. It aids in muscle  blood flow . This agumnetation is missing in poorly trained cardiac failure patients. Further muscle respiration is synonymous with  functional capacity . Numerous defects (Both structural and functional )  in skeletal muscle mitochondria are reported.

This is why meticulous  exercise training  becomes an important   intervention in  cardiac failure . There are very good studies that document   muscle respiration defects  getting reverted  with  proper exercise training and  muscle  care  .  Among all muscles the   calf  and thigh muscles show great promise.   We have observed  cardiac failure patients  with good calf muscles ,  outperform others with identical ejection fraction.(Will be published shortly )

Strangely there is no comparative  studies between calf muscle  efficiency   and other available modalities  in cardiac failure .

The concept of  Venous pump vs  Arterial pump

Skeletal muscle mass acts not only as venous pump  it also has a modulating  effect on the arterial pulse transmission .A good venous  pump will activate  vascular  tone . In congestive heart failure  a the RV filling pressure is raised,  blood tends  to  move sluggishly  in right heart chambers .  A proper venous tone  can alleviate this . Well trained  calf muscle  can exactly do this  by a controlled elevation  of  IVC pressure at times of exertion . 

 Dyspnea  of muscular  origin (Peripheral dyspnea)

The symptomatology of cardiac failure has an intimate  realtionship with skeletal muscle integrity  !

Lactate in blood and  hypoxia  in   exercising muscles  can trigger   non hemodynamic dyspnea . Further , there is strong reason to believe  the sensation of dyspnea   is perceived at the chest muscle level  (By muscle spindle length/tension   mismatch ) .It is not known whether lower limb  muscles can generate a feeling of dyspnea  !

But , one thing is certain   by altering the tone of the muscle  spindle and the  optimising the  stretch signals the peripheral component of cardiac dyspnea can be significantly neutralised . This  is what  happens in well-trained   cardiac  failure patients .

How to train the skeletal muscles ? ( In to heart friendly  muscle )

  • Passive stretch
  • Simple 6 minute walking three times a day will help .
  • Muscle massage and toning
  • Drugs like Trimetazidine may improve muscle metabolism by better ATP utilisation
  • Diligent use of diuretics (Excess diuretic can make your muscle exhausted )
  • Chest exercise for improving intercostal muscle function

 

Final message

Skeletal muscle training  in cardiac  failure  could be as important as  the  digoxins  , diurteics   and ACEI .When a 300 grams of heart muscle is struggling  , God  is willing to  help  it with huge muscle mass that lies elsewhere , we should read the silent  signals of nature . Many cardiac failure patients  realise this and live  a happy live without artificial assistance .This applies  in all grades of cardiac failure .

For  all those physicians  out there in modern hospitals who treat cardiac  failure , spend at least  few minutes  for prescribing a good exercise  program with a specific  mention about calf muscle function  . After all , it  may turn out be the most efficient  RV/LV assist device !

References

                                                                     http://content.onlinejacc.org/cgi/content/abstract/30/7/1758

 http://www.uptodate.com/contents/skeletal-muscle-dysfunction-and-exercise-intolerance-in-heart-failure

In this world of  evidence based medicine  the  funny bedside vocabulary of  medical statistics   has withstood the test of  time. The following words are liberally used by physicians of all walks of life.

We never bother to find what these words mean to our patients  !

Here is a crude and  wild   numerical attempt to  decode  these words.

  • Always                                    99 %
  • It s a rule                                  95-99%
  • Almost always                       90-95%
  • Very common                       > 90 %
  • Common                                  > 75%
  • Uncommon                            < 30 %
  • Rare                                          < 10 %
  • Very rare                                < 5 %
  • It is an exception                2 -5 %
  • Remote                                   < 2 %
  • Never                                     < 1%

Apart from the above   there two  hugely popular  medical words used over  million times every day in all walks of medical practice.

They are  ” May” and “May not”

The greatness of these words lies  in the fact   it can convey any of the above  10 meanings in a single phrase without any fuss !

Further ,  the words may and may not are numberless un-quantified statistical  jargons that   can convey a deep meaning or  . . . no meaning  depending upon the circumstances !

Doctor ,  is there a possibility of  my stent getting occluded    as i have skipped  the  clopidgrel ,and aspirin for the past two weeks

You may  be at risk  . . . but you may not develop  an heart attack immediately . I would advice you start the drug immediately .

Heart is mainly perceived  as  a pumping organ but it need to be realised it  also has a   reservoir function  (Temporarily though , for  about .5 seconds every beat ) . Contrary  to the popular belief heart is not  continuously and tirelessly working  .For every contractile  beat it takes  a brief period of rest .This is called diastole. But , even here it is not a complete rest , as  it has to receive the blood from the atria and get filled and be ready for the next beat.

Many think diastole is an active energy-consuming process . . . but it can be debated still ,  as passive elastic properties may contribute substantially to cardiac relaxation blunting the energy requirement

God is so scientific (Greatest scientist !)  he  made it sure   the resting phase(Diastole)   is slightly more  than the contractile phase (Systole ).

This makes the organ relax a bit more than it stresses  in its entire life time . At  any  given heart rate diastole will be slightly  more than systole  , peculiarly  for the same reason  during tachycardia  diastole suffers more than systole.

What happens in diastolic dysfunction ?

Pathologically the ventricles become stiff  and rigid and the filling of the  ventricle is impaired . The commonest cause for diastolic dysfunction are  hypertension, diabetes, and  ischemic  CAD some forms of myopathies  .In systole ,the calcium  is pumped into actin myosin complex  while in diastole the  same calcium molecules  (Or different !)   are ejected back into the cytosol and sarcoplasmic reticulum. The later process is impaired in many situations of diastolic dysfunction.

It should  also be realised not every one with diastolic dysfunction  has a  calcium release /unloading defect .Many  have structural diastolic dysfunction  like interstitial fibrosis  .Here the mechanism goes beyond  calcium kinetics.These are the patients who get maximum  benefit out of heart rate reduction.

It is all Time  . . . Time as a  lusiotropic  drug !

If the ventricle finds difficult to relax  (or slow /sluggish to relax )  we have  two  options to tackle this .

  • To make relaxation  faster( ie positive lusiotropism )*
  • To  prolong the diastole  itself  .

Prolonging diastole makes it certain , the LV relaxation process is completed   as the excess time compensates for  the slowness of calcium reuptake into the sarcoplasmic reticulum . In fact , we have observed at slow heart rates (<60)  it is very difficult to document diastolic dysfunction  by doppler .

In many of  dilated  cardiomyopathies  the beneficial effect of  beta blockers , could be linked to simple reduction in heart rate and prolongation of diastole .(Note In DCM about 30-40 % have restrictive filling )

Final message

As we have no specific drugs to  augment the  process  of   cardiac diastole,  currently heart rate reduction  could be the simple and best method*  to improve diastolic function  .In many cases  diastolic dysfunction  simply vanishes  at low heart rate.Bradycardia  and  diastolic dysfunction   will remain as foes  forever !  Please give the benefit of this simple concept to all your patients with diastolic dysfunction .Your patients  can breath lot more easier !

*Apart from controlling the underlying cause like DM, SHT and CAD  , anti fibrotic drugs,  interstitial relaxants ,selective cardiac   collagen uncouplers  are the  future areas of research .

Adenosine is a  purine analogue. Acts by stimulating outward K+ channel  of AV nodal tissue, more specifically  in the posteriorly   located  slow pathway in the vicinity of  coronary sinus.

Another action of adenosine is inhibition of cAMP , which is similar to beta blocking action may also help in terminating the tachycardia.

Adenosine : A 10 second cardiac miracle

  • 12mg bolus is administered , preferably in a central vein (Not mandatory  though)
  • Termination is usually abrupt . Transient VPDs are observed during termination.
  • Transient flushing may occur.
  • If the patient is taking Aminophylline group of drugs (Which are adenosine antagonists) the AV nodal blocking action may be neutralised .

(It may be apt to recall  at this juncture ,  Aminophylline is used in sinus node dysfunction or AV block to increase heart rate )

Reference

A good one from Medscape http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/585287_2

Coronary artery is the life line  of the  heart.The size ,  branches  and the course are  predetermined . Generally  it follows a  pattern ,  but still  it is   believed  every  human has a unique coronary finger print. (When retinal blood  vessels can do this . . .  why not the coronary  ? )

When the left main bifurcates it has to share its resources equally between the two  daughter vessel (Not exactly . . . LAD is  widow maker can’t be a daughter  !)

The logic would say LAD demands more as it has more  territorial commitment.But if LCX fights for  equality  share there is a  potential conflict here.But when LCX  is very aggressive and  demands  much more than it deserves the  issue becomes further complex

See how this LCX  gets bulk of the blood flow from Left main and no doubt this man came with  NSTEMI and  LAD region ischemia while his posterior circulation is comfortably  placed with  excess blood.

Note: The diameter of LCX even exceeds left main in certain segments.

One suggested formula (not validated ) is  diameter of   LCX +  LAD will be   at-least 150% of left main diameter .

1.5 x Left main diameter  =  (LAD + LCX diameter)

This amounts  to  50%  gain in  diameter   as it bifurcates .

Trifurcation  further increases the width conferring a hemodynamic advantage

What is the implication of unequal bifurcation  Left main ?

Hemodynamically there could be diversion  of flow into a larger orifice .But ultimately since  the blood flow is  determined  by the resistance arterioles at myocardial bed there  may not be any  practical significance . In pathological situations there could be a some impact  due to  stealing . Large LCX is more common with  left  dominant circulation  .

Coronary atherosclerosis  can  strike  an artery  with  variety  of   lesions.It can be  any of the following.

  • Focal
  • Ostial
  • Eccentric
  • Discrete
  • Diffuse
  • Tandem
  • Ectatic
  • Multiple

  Rarely  a coronary artery  is  blessed with  all  of the  above  characters ,     added  with homo and hetero  collaterals   . . .     resulting  in  Atherosclerotic    chaos  !


What is  chaos ?

 

Note one such vessel inflicted with chaos lesions

How to you report the above angiogram  ? What can be done ?

We  do not treat an angiogram. We need to know the clinical background. (This  is a  50 year old man with chronic stable angina )  He also had a  lesion  in LAD and   was advised CABG with grafts to LAD  and PDA.

Is PCI possible in such a vessel ?

Most would agree , it is a crime to think about  PCI in the above vessel. Still , few hard-core  interventional  cardiologists may vouch   for success  in this vessel !

Is there any alternative management other than CABG in this vessel ?

Leaving it alone can be an intelligent strategy . (If  LAD is normal  it  may be the  best possible management)  . But , CABG will remain a default choice. But , when a person is having such a rampant atherosclerosis  he is at high  risk  for pre- mature  graft disease as well. Hence  , intensive medical management will be the key  in  such patients irrespective  of  any revascularization procedure.

Coronary collateral circulation can be termed as one of the  mysterious  circulation in our body.Cardiologists generally do not  give much importance to it and some interventionists even ridicule it !  . But  ,  God has given it ,  with  a purpose. He adds a riddle though !  .Collaterals  grow  in  almost  every  individual  when   obstruction occurs gradually ( chronic coronary syndrome ) but only in  a few ,  it  will open up  during a real emergency like ACS !

How and why , only  few of us can  recruit  coronary collaterals   during   acute occlusion ?

God  blesses acute coronary collaterals only in selected few  , who  are on the right side of his good books .This can be  the other name for our  destiny !

Role of coronary collateral circulation  in acute coronary syndrome.

  • Limits  infarct size and volume
  • Promotes salvage
  • Converts q  MI to non q  MI
  • Prevents Unstable angina from becoming MI
  • Prevent primary VT and VF*

All  of the above can be vital  in saving a life  . Even as  we realise 30 % of STEMI do not even reach hospital  , it seems certain men and women with early collateral recruitment  will never  fail to reach the hospital alive

Is there a simple  method to identify  people who are blessed with acutely recruitable   collaterlas ?

I am afraid it is  almost equal to  asking   for a glimpse of GOD   !

Wait . . .  when we were on cath lab  few  days ago a  stunning  phenomenon happened  that could pave way for identifying  potential acute  collaterals  in any human being.  Follow this site  . . .the details will be posted !

 Hypertension  ranks  number one  in the risk for future  stroke . Surprisingly this is true  for ischemic  as well as  hemorrhagic strokes.

 What  causes  thrombosis or  rupture of small cerebral arterioles ?

 It is somewhat similar to coronary events . ( With one major exception,  coronary vesels  are   not prone for rupture ) .It is  believed   sudden spikes of   blood pressure  and the resultant endothelial injury are responsible. Atherosclerotic plaque fissure and inflammation  also  contribute. 

Is embolic stroke related to hypertension ?

The vast majority of embolic stroke are believed to  arise from heart .This belief is getting gradually eroded , as we now know aortic arch and carotid arteries vie for this honour . .(This was indirectly proved in AFFIRM trial  when rhythm control failed  to reduce the incidence of  stroke inpateints with AF ,   implying much of the strokes arise  in the upstream rather than within the cardiac chambers )  

Meanwhile , there is no controversy  in  SHT  promoting  both cardiac  and non cardiac embolus to brain

Systolic ,  Diastolic or Mean pressure   which is  important  in the genesis of stroke  ?

All parameters  are  important , but the   systolic blood pressure  is vested with more  vigour  to damage the  cerebral arterioles. The reason  systolic pressure is more important lies  in the  fact ,  it  can  attain  high pressure peaks instantly ,  unlike diastolic or pulse pressure which  slowly builds up. Further , systolic BP  carries  leading edge of the pressure  curve with high Dp/Dt and hits  the target  first !

At what pressure the cerebral artery becomes  uncomfortable ?

We do not know  the answer as yet , but any systolic pressure above 180 mmhg is a huge stress for the cerebral arterioles.The rapidity with which the BP  raises  (Dp/Dt) also becomes  important  . High blood pressure increases the shearing stress .It  interferes with nitric oxide synthesis and promotes endothelin release which precipitates  cerebro vascular event.

How do you identify people who are at risk for stroke ?

While  cardiac physicians are obsessed with exercise stress test to predict CAD  very  few  are worried about  stroke . In fact the same exercise stress test can be used to stratify stroke risk. The exercise induced systolic blood pressure  raise  is a useful risk stratifying  tool. This concept is there for more than a decade without reaching the clinical domain.

The following paper was  published in stroke journal (2001)  from the picturesque university of  Kupio Finland.(See below )  It is a wonderfully done study and throws great insight into the  new  emerging  science of  Intra cerebral hypertension .

 

The following can be summed up as risk factors for stroke during EST  (Derived from   various sources  and  . . .  with   liberal dose of personal  logic !)

  • Raise of 20 mmhg  SBP  at  2  minutes .
  • Increment of >  20mmhg in SBP any subsequent minute.   
  • Any  SBP  above 200mmhg during  EST
  • Failure to  reach baseline SBP  at 6 minutes recovery .
  • SBP  or DBP remaining high  even  after  the heart rate reaches baseline.

 

 Final message

For the kind attention  of all  cardiac physicians . . .  whenever you do an  EST for a cardiac indication ,  please spend the first  few  minutes  carefully ,and   look at the  blood pressure response . It is encouraged ,  to  specifically mention about the  behavior of  SBP  and write a remark about the propensity for  stroke in  every EST/TMT report .   Let us grow our brain  sense as well   . . .  for   the sake of our patients !

Thanks again  to Dr S.Kurl et all from Finland  for their  nice article which  stimulated  me to write  this post .

Reference

http://stroke.ahajournals.org/cgi/reprint/32/9/2036

http://heart.bmj.com/content/95/13/1072.abstract

Further queries

How common is stroke following a EST procedure ?  Can high blood pressure dislodge a carotid plaque during a stress test ?

The answers will be posted soon once I  get it . ( Of course you can do it if you know !)